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Kris Horn wrote:

Hi Mike,

I'm trying to wrap my head around why Protestants would not want to be Catholic. It seems like they're not understanding something and I want to be ready with an answer if, and when, I am questioned about my faith.

I don't know when the following question/answer conversation took place, but I liked your answer.

If we, as Catholics:

  • believe in the Eucharist, and
  • believe it to be the actual Body of Christ

then we are the ones being saved.

I don't really believe that last part, but I can't figure out why anyone who considers him or herself to be a Christian wouldn't want to practice the Catholic faith. I keep trying to do a comparison of Christian faiths and I just don't get it and for some reason it bothers me.

  • What do Protestants think being saved means?
  • What is their idea of God's grace?
  • Why do Catholics believe that the Eucharist is the actual body of Christ and Protestants don't?

If Martin Luther was originally Catholic then surely he believed in the Eucharist, therefore all Protestants should believe in the Eucharist. It doesn't make sense that he would drop that belief.

Thanks for your help,

Kris Horn

  { Can you explain why anyone who calls themselves a Christian would not want to be a Catholic? }

Mike replied:

Hi Kris,

Thanks for the kind comments and questions.

In my opinion, all the divisions and breaks from the Church since our Blessed Lord's Glorious Ascension in 33 A.D. are the result of three main things:

  • a lack of a personal prayer life among the faithful, including the priestly hierarchy
  • a lack of study and catechesis among the faithful, and
  • major problems in some Catholic seminaries.

One of my favorite quotes is from Pope St. Pius V:

"All the evil in the world is due to lukewarm Catholics."

This is how all divisions have started within the one Church Jesus established on St. Peter and his successors. I believe our Church has failed in putting a love and appreciation for the Catholic faith into its members during CCD; a faith that has been passed down from Jesus and His Apostles.

  • How many faithful Catholics even know that the word Catholic means:
    a faith according to its totality?
    [Meaning we don't pick and choose among Jesus' teachings.]
  • Do you want to see true faith and true love?

    Look at the writings of the Early Church Fathers.

They are saints that died for what they believed in rather than compromise on a doctrine of the Church.

Nevertheless, the past is the past. One of the biggest challenges in today's culture is being able to develop solid, long-lasting friendships with people. The people you meet in life have an array of different:

  • family, cultural, and emotional backgrounds
  • secular and religious educational levels
  • aptitude and maturity levels

As practicing Catholics our goal is to:

  • understand where they are coming from by listening to their concerns and spiritual interests based on their set of backgrounds
  • share our Catholic faith charitably (1 Peter 3:15); don't make playing Scriptural ping-pong a habit. [This will result in winning a game, but loosing a friendship.]
  • pray for our friends and enemies and study the documents of the Church, especially the Scriptures and the Catechism.
  • develop a friendship, not to convert anyone; that's not our job. That's the Holy Spirit's job working with your friend.

Our Job is to give information about what the Catholic Church teaches and, if necessary, why we believe our faith and Her Teachings. The faith-sharer has to decide the truthfulness of what we are saying.

I believe there are many, many sincere separated brethren who believe in the man-made congregations they were brought up in at birth because they were never taught anything else. They have good hearts, but have:

  1. been scandalized by bad Catholic behavior
  2. been told Catholics believe things, we really don't believe, or
  3. have never been taught the fullness of the Catholic faith:

    What the very first Christians of the Church (who were Catholic) believed.
  • Why should any Protestant consider becoming a Catholic?

Because they believe the Church is a truth-telling Church on issues of faith and eternal salvation, not because:

  • it makes them feel good
  • challenges them intellectually, or
  • is culturally in with today's news media.

To my Catholic brethren reading this posting, I have this question for you:

  • If someone convicted you of being a Roman Catholic, would there be enough evidence against you?

Here are two pages of web postings that address the second portion of you question. The first page has questions that deal with Salvation and Justification; the second addresses issues dealing with the Eucharist:

Hope this helps,

Mike

Kris replied:

Mike,

Thank you so much.

That was an awesome answer. I know in my heart that I need to be more open to listening to what friends of other faiths have to say, but I am always filled with confusion and concern when these are friends who were once Catholic.

That said, you are so right about backgrounds. I don't know their lives intimately enough to understand why they have left the Catholic Church. Their reasons may seem flimsy to me, but they are obviously not to them.

It hurts me that they don't have the Eucharist. It doesn't bother me if people try to pick apart my faith and I can't play Scriptural Ping Pong with people because I don't know the Bible well enough. Taking a Catholic Bible study course at my parish church has helped me to learn so much and has helped me to see how much more I didn't know.

Thanks again for your answer. It helped a lot.

Kris

John replied:

Hi Kris,

Thanks for your questions, but mostly thank-you for your zeal.

Trying to compare the various Christian sects can indeed give you a migraine. At last count there were some 30,000 of them.

First and foremost, we must distinguish between those Protestants that separated themselves from the Church 400 years ago from those who are born into or otherwise join these sects today.

Luther was a Catholic priest. He was, for good reason, concerned with his salvation and, for good reason, concerned with the manner in which certain Catholic clerics were conducting themselves and even distorting the Gospel, but let me be clear, the Church was not distorting Her own Teachings, rather some priests and even bishops were.

During the Middle Ages, particularly in the Western Church:

  • works
  • mortification, and
  • fear of damnation

were over-emphasized above the work of grace and the role of a believers faith. Against this background, Luther began to study Paul's epistle to the Romans. During this study, he misinterpreted Paul's understanding of faith and how it justifies the believer. As a result, he misunderstood, not only how we are justified, but also what justification is. He began to preach that man was justified by faith alone and that justification was simply a legal acquittal.

In Luther's thinking, Christ who was sinless died for all sinners and, on the basis of our faith in Him, God ignores the believer's transgressions and nothing further is required from man in order to attain salvation.

Luther was not entirely wrong:

  • None of us can be saved by our own works, and
  • justification, in one sense, is a legal acquittal.

but that is not the fullness of justification.

Justification makes us sons. God infuses Christ's righteousness in us and gives us the power to become Sons of God. Hence, justification is not just a one-time event. It is sonship, which must grow and manifest Christ's righteousness if we are to inherit that which God wants to give us. Hence, sanctifying grace intrinsically works in us through our faith and our faithful cooperation with the understanding that both faith and our cooperation are only possible by grace.

Therefore while we can't say we are justified by faith alone, we can say we are justified by grace alone.

Luther, on the other hand, simply viewed grace as external and forensic. It was simply God's favor towards those that believe in Him. He therefore concluded that justification was a one-time, legal declaration.

After erroneously concluding that man is justified by faith alone, Luther then was faced with another problem.

  • What was he going to do with 1,500 years of Church Teaching?

His solution was to throw it out. He then fashioned yet another doctrine call Sola Scriptura or Scripture Alone. This doctrine (or rather heresy) asserted that the Bible is the only inerrant rule of faith. This of course led to everyone interpreting the Bible subjectively to fit their own understanding of Christianity.

After Luther, Calvin and others came along with their own twists of Biblical interpretations and theology and so the downward spiral began.

As for the Eucharist, which your question focused on, all these Protestants began to re-interpret the exact meaning of the Eucharist. Luther professed, that Christ was present in the bread and wine only during the Liturgy. Luther, of course was wrong on two counts.

  1. Christ is not present in the species. Rather, the substance of the species changes from bread and wine to Christ's Body and Blood. The Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity are sacramentally and substantially present in what appears to be bread and wine.

  2. The Real Presence, remains until the species cease to appear as bread and wine. In other words, the Eucharist Is A Who — not an It. Therefore, He is worthy to be adored as long as He is Sacramentally Present.

Along with Luther, other Protestants starting reinventing the wheel. With no Church Tradition to guide them, they all developed doctrines (or heresies) based on their subjective understanding of the Scriptures.

Today there are almost as many views about Communion as there are denominations and sects.

  • Some believe that The Lord's Supper is a institutional ordinance in which we simply remember Calvary.
  • Others profess that Christ is mystically present in the action or participation, just as He is present in the proclamation of the Word.
  • Still others believe that by the believer's personal faith, one actually receives Christ by participating and receiving.

That's just a handful of the many views various Protestants espouse. Now in Christian charity,
we must realize that many folks just don't know the Truth.

They have been brought up with certain beliefs. Even some fallen away Catholics that have joined these Churches don't realize what they have left and to some extent we need to ask:

  • Where did we fail in presenting the Truth to them?

The fact that all Christians don't share the fullness of the faith ought to bother you (as you've so commented). Christ prayed for His Church to be one. (See John 17)

The divisions in the Body of Christ are a scandal to those that don't know Christ but we must always be charitable as we seek to heal those wounds. The Catechism addresses this issue in detail. Poignantly, it recognizes that these divisions occurred because men on both sides committed sins.

We are also called to pray, study, and act. We are called:

  • to seek Christ
  • to know Him
  • to obey Him, and
  • to allow Him to heals the wounds of division through us.

Under His Mercy,

John DiMascio

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