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Art
Bilder
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Hi, guys —
I read this letter to the Bishops and paragraph three (below) seems to confuse the issue on whether the Church
should rethink the issue of whether divorced Catholics,
who have remarried without an annulment, should be able
to receive Holy Communion. The piece implies that it may be
OK if a prudent and expert priest is consulted.
In 2005 at the Bishops Synod in Rome Archbishop Dew
from New Zealand suggested that the Church rethink its
discipline on communion for divorced, remarried Catholics
and for their Protestant spouses in mixed marriages.
Our Church would be enriched if we were able
to invite dedicated Catholics, currently excluded from
the Eucharist, to return to the Lord's table.
said Dew. It is estimated that in the United States
there are 6 million to 8 million divorced and remarried
Catholics, only 10 percent of whom have received an annulment.
Some 5 million to 7 million are theoretically banned
from the Eucharist, though there is evidence that some
pastors quietly encourage them to come forward. Dew suggested
that we must look for ways to include those who are hungering
for the Bread of Life. He also said that the Church has
an obligation before God to seek ways to overcome the
difficulties burdening so many of our people. |
Sincerely,
Art
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Should divorced Catholics,
remarried without an annulment, be able to receive Holy Communion? }
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Mike
replied:
Hi, Art —
Let me comment on what the Archbishop has said above.
I agree, it seems to confuse the teaching of the
Church.
I don't know what there is to re-think.
I'm sure the Archbishop is aware that receiving the
Eucharist is a outward sign of our Catholic Common (Union)
in faith . . . Meaning, what we believe as Catholics. When we
receive Holy Communion, we are implicitly saying,
I
am in Communion with all the Teachings of the Catholic
Church.
A non-practicing Catholic who disregards
the Teachings of the Church could not say this.
Also, practicing Catholics know that Jesus would
never condone any man or woman marrying multiple
spouses; it would be a violation of the sixth commandment.
To ensure one man is married to one woman, the Church
has to investigate to see if any previous marriages
were valid or not. If the Church didn't do this,
it would be condoning bigamy. No Christian in their
right mind would condone bigamy.
I think any divorced Catholic man or woman who has
remarried without a declaration of nullity, can understand
the reasoning behind what I have just said.
In what you send, he said:
Some 5 million to 7 million are
theoretically banned from the Eucharist.
This banning is cause by their choice, not by any
choice of Christ or His Church. As Catholics, we
have to hold on to and maintain the Teachings
Our Lord wishes us to maintain since 33 A.D.
That said, we must proclaim and make clear, as Catholic
Christians, that those that have divorced, yet remarried without a
declaration of nullity, are welcome with open arms
to attend any Catholic Mass and pray with the community but because of the uncertainty of their marital situation
though, they cannot receive the Blessed Sacrament, meaning Communion.
I still encourage those in this situation to talk to their pastor, to see if through their guidance, their situation can be rectified by getting a process started.
Divorced Catholics who have not remarried have always be able to receive the Eucharist.
Hope this helps,
Mike
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Art
Bilder wrote to a friend,
saying:
Kathy,
Millions of other Catholics, need to check out the
2005 Synod on divorce, remarriage and the Eucharist.
The continued changing of rules by the Church indicates
that these man-made rules can be changed again by
understanding what Divine Mercy is all about.
Being married 45 years to a Catholic convert, raising
8 children and now married to a divorced Presbyterian,
my compassion goes out to the millions out there
like myself.
Not only can I not receive the Eucharist (four
out of five priests tell me to continue to receive) but
my pastor will not allow me to be on the Church board
or involved in any other ministries I have previously
been involved with.
I am now 76-years-old and an active Catholic who
happened to fall in love after my first wife's death
from pancreatic cancer in 2001. I would like to hear
from others in my situation before millions more
drop out of the Church finding themselves welcomed
into other denominations.
Sincerely,
Art Bilder
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Mike
replied:
Hi Art,
It appears you sent me a CC of an e-mail you sent
to a friend of yours.
Let me comment on what you said to her.
If your first wife has passed to her particular
judgment or died, you are free to marry in the Church.
The only reason, you could perceive that you cannot
receive the Eucharist is if you did not get a dispensation
from the local bishop to marry a non-Catholic, but
that's easy to get, if your Presbyterian wife's previous
marriage(s) are not valid. All you need is to get
your marriage blessed. Its called convalidation. Any priest can help you our there. If you have had
your marriage convalidated, I believe there is nothing that is stopping you from receiving the Eucharist
or being on any parish board or ministry.
For short, the ball is in your court and that of
your current wife. Please reply if I have misunderstood
anything. My colleagues will correct me if I am wrong, but
I believe you cannot receive the Eucharist without
a dispensation from the bishop.
You said:
The continued changing of rules
by the Church indicates that these man made rules
can be changed again by understanding what Divine Mercy is all about.
You can't confuse disciplines with doctrines.
None of doctrines of the Church will ever be changed
by Divine Mercy. It would put Justice at odds with
Mercy and we know Jesus is both Justice and Mercy at the same time..
Disciplines of the Church can change, but they would
be in accordance with the Teachings — Doctrines
of the Church.
Mike
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Mary
Ann replied:
Dear Art —
If your current civil spouse's previous marriage
were found to be null by the Church, then you could
marry your spouse sacramentally.
If not, then you could live celibately, and thus
be able to receive the Eucharist.
Mary Ann
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Art
replied to Mary Ann:
Wow . . . .
Hmmm . . . . I hope you are never in the
position to tell your spouse, I can no longer make
love to you., when that is what human beings were
created for, even in their senior years. No one can
say another person can't make love to another person
until, for some reason, it's just impossible for
them.
I spent several years after my wife's death trying
to find some nice, single or widowed Catholic lady
to marry and be my lover. Well, that never happened.
The (SWD) Single, Widowed, or Divorced Catholics I
knew wanted nothing to do with men, marriage, or sex . . .
something more Protestant women had no problems with.
Whether their marriage was good or bad, the Protestant
women did not let it affect their desire for male
companionship. The Catholic women, from the area
churches, that I knew since 1967, were single and
now enjoying their celibate lives. They were lucky
to find one or two men in the SWD groups because
all the women wanted is for some guy to fix their
plumbing, mow their grass, repair their houses, etc.
If they took care of an ailing husband before he
died, they wanted nothing to do with that again.
I watched my beloved wife waste away with pancreatic
cancer, sometimes sleeping on the floor next to her
bed, praying daily with her that she be healed, Rosary
in-hand together, up until her very last breath. I
watched her eight children grieve for her as she
suffered and yet I would do it all over again because
of the blessings. After her death, her intercession
was there for all who prayed to her. She appeared
to several parishioners, friends, and family at times
just to tell them how happy she was and how wonderful
Heaven is.
We saw miracles like the ones that are required
for any Saint to be canonized but our dioceses priest
said the cult for her intercession was not big enough.
My next step before I die will be to write a book
about her life, sickness, death, and our experiences
after her death. After nine years people still see
her as a Saint. Sometimes a day won't go by when
I run into someone who will remember her. Her presence
was felt even in England by a lady who had just found
out she had breast cancer which my wife also had
in 1976. She was Jewish. My wife was a convert from
the Baptist Church. Our pastor asked that the song Gentle
Woman about Mary be sung at the funeral. A
fountain is dedicated to her by a Marian Shrine at
our Church. I have to admit that my unforgivable
sin was falling in love with a 64 year old Presbyterian
lady who is the happiest she has ever been after
being married to two men who cheated on her, gambled
away their money, etc. She had seven children while
they did their thing. Now my Church, not hers, tells
her she is committing adultery and needs a annulment
from my Church so I can receive the Eucharist.
Until the Catholic Church becomes more compassionate
and merciful as many priests have told me, it will
never be able to evangelize her nor the millions
of other Protestant and Catholic spouses in our situation.
Church rules continue to change and the rules on
annulments need to change as well, as priests will
tell you. I am sure a count of priests and some Bishops
would shock our beloved Pope.
Even these men, who never knew the joys and sorrows
of married life except for what they hear by the millions in Confession, know something has to change.
Some priests give me a blessing when I go to Confession.
Only one has refused me absolution or a blessing.
This priest was probably 80 years old now and could
have been tormented regarding sexual things all his
life. Nevertheless, it should have made him even
more compassionate and understanding.
Thanks for your reply and your prayers.
Art Bilder
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Mary
Ann replied:
Art —
Nobody is telling you that you may not make love
to your spouse. The point is that the woman with
whom you are living is presumably someone else's
spouse.
All an annulment will do is check to ensure this
is not so. If the men she married:
- lacked the intention of permanence and fidelity,
or
- lacked the ability to form the intention, or
- had a problem such as alcoholism about which
she was kept in ignorance until after the ceremony
it would appear that those marriages were null and
she would be free to marry you.
Mary Ann
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Art
replied to Mike:
Yes Mike,
I have studied Church doctrines all my life but
I have also met the loving Jesus and know that he
is my personal Savior. My mistake is forgivable like
murder or any other hideous crime yet for my present
wife to be blamed and hurt is not the kind of Church
she is interested in. Perhaps you may want to read:
[Book name blocked out.]
by [Name hidden] ministries.
In this booklet, I am seeing what a number of Catholic
priests believe regarding our Catholic Church rules
and doctrines on the subject.
Thanks for passing my e-mail on to the rest of your
team. I will forward all your replies to Kathy.
Sincerely,
Art Bilder
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Mike
replied:
Hi, Art —
I'm confused.
- Why would I want to read a booklet from a Protestant
minister who started his own organization?
St. Paul warned us about this in Galatians 1:6-10. Read it again.
- Have the bishops of the Catholic Church laid hands
on Dr. H.? (Holy Orders?)
If not, his authority is
false.
Any questions he answers about the Church or our Bible, are his opinions.
Remember, the Bible was written:
- by Catholics and their ancestors,
- for Catholics,
- for use in the Catholic Mass.
Check out this posting:
Before 382 A.D., no one knew what made up the canon
or measuring rod of the Bible.
- Did all those Catholic Christians before 382 A.D. go
to Hell? <No.>
They received the Word of God by the
Oral Tradition that was passed down.
That's just History 101, Art!
- How is your present wife blamed and hurt?
She is not the one, not allowed to be on a parish
board or involved in a parish ministry, you are.
If she wants to see you involved in Church ministries, and, as Mary Ann said, her previous marriages were
null, she should want to have the Church investigate
her previous marriages.
If she wishes to get involved as well, she should
consider being a Catholic. A great way to learn the basic teachings of the Catholic faith is to get a cheap copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church on Amazon.
Mike
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Art
replied:
Thanks again Mike, but I was told the annulment
process did not come until around the 14th or 15th century.
I would never change the Scriptures any more than
I would change the Ten Commandments.
If I recall some
recent writings by Sr. Faustina, she claims
Jesus told her, there is the list of 20 reasons Catholics
can go to Hell, then there is the part of the message
that says His Divine Mercy is for everyone. We know
He died for everyone and Divine Mercy came to him
as he suffered through all our sins in the garden.
He wants the Church to understand that as well.
In 1976, I was blessed to be taken bodily to Calvary
and was able to see that Divine Mercy in my Savior's
Eyes. I was about 43 at the time. This was just one
of many such experiences that I had which included
the Blessed Mother. I will never understand why I
was picked. Even my five or six year old son was
visited by Jesus in our back yard. He recollects
this visit in detail even now at age 34. When my
deceased wife appeared to me, several people I shared
this with could not understand why they were not
fortunate enough to have a similar experience. They
at least wanted their deceased spouses to appear
to them or at least to get some kind of message from
the Lord. I had no explanation except to tell them
that maybe they just never sinned enough to see God's
Mercy and Love.
One of the times, my wife's presence was made known
to one of my children was when my daughter asked God
to give her some sign regarding her mother. Five
minutes later her five year old son came into the
house with a bouquet of flowers that showed up on
a bush that had never been there before at the front
door patio. They were flowers that my daughter use
to pick for her mother when she was in her elder
years. That type of flower was everywhere in Florida
but had disappeared for many years. Now they are
no longer wild and cost a pretty penny to buy.
Sincerely,
Art Bilder
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Mike
replied:
Hi, Art —
I am not familiar with the history of the annulment
process, so I'll pass on that one.
New Advent is a great resource for getting the scoop
on this stuff:
I don't doubt that you received many extra ordinary
supernatural blessings in your life.
Through prayer, you will be able to figure out the
meaning behind them.
My concern, again, is that you are putting a private
revelation, (Sr. Faustina's message of Divine Mercy . . . which I believe in) on the same level with
the Teachings of the Church.
You said:
In 1976, I was blessed to be
taken bodily to Calvary and was able to see that
Divine Mercy in my Saviors eyes.
That surely was a blessing, but the same reality
happens every time you go to Mass.
Unlike the blessing you received, we don't see it,
but it happens in reality.
When the priest/celebrant on the altar repeats
the narrative Our Lord used at the Last Supper,
not only do the bread and wine become the Body
and Blood of the Lord, but at that moment, we enter into that one sacrifice of Calvary.
Jesus was not a Human Person but Divine Person;
He is outside of time. Because of this, that one
sacrifice that happened in 33 A.D. was perpetuated throughout
time so all mankind could partake in the blessings.
When Catholics attend Sunday Mass they enter into
that One Sacrifice of Calvary and receive the graces
to sustain them for another week.
Mike
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Art
replied:
Hi, Mike —
I guess you are missing the point or I am not coming
across to you.
My wife has never considered becoming
a Catholic although her youngest boy attended Catholic
school in Indiana and even considered becoming a
priest but was still Presbyterian when they moved
to Florida. Four years later he drowned in the Indian
River at age 19. Susan does have Catholic relatives.
I am not sure what kind of an example they were but
they also lived in another state.
Protestants are our separated brethren and
not our enemies according to our Popes. I married
my first wife, a Southern Baptist, and we agreed
to not do anything that would be negative toward
either ones faith. Three years later, after regularly
explaining to her the Faith, she became a Catholic
and is definitely a Saint, worthy to be prayed to
according to the pastor we had . . . when she died. There
have been too many miracles to list right now. Her
appearances were enough to canonize her!! This is
the life I had with her and I was not worthy of it!!
I do understand Dr H. [the Protestant minister] lacks the appropriate authority
but most of what he writes in this book is in agreement
of the Catholic Church which was why I wanted you
to possibly read it for yourself. The men and
women who have brought the most into the Catholic
Church are those converts that we weekly hear on The
Journey Home program of which I recently
attended the conference in Columbia, Ohio. Dr H.
is not suggesting that he has any authority and quotes
the same thoughts of the Catholic Church in a positive
way including on issues dealing with divorce and
remarriage, etc.
Thanks again for your reply.
Art Bilder
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Mike
replied:
Hi, Art —
You said:
Protestants are our separated
brethren and not our enemies according to our
Popes.
No one who answers questions on this site considers
Protestants as enemies.
There is one enemy: ignorance of the faith.
Archbishop Fulton Sheen said,
There are not 100 people in America that
hate the Catholic Church, but millions upon millions
who hate what they think is the Catholic
Church.
I will keep you and Sue in my prayers.
Take care,
Mike
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