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Shawn wrote:

Hi, guys —

  • When it says that God created Adam and then Eve from his rib, etc; was this a
    Homo sapien man, better known as a modern day man?

If so, this would have happened about 200,000 years ago, or

  • Does this exclude:
    • the understanding of evolution in a pre-scientific world at the time? or
    • exclude our understanding of them having no knowledge of dinosaurs, etc.

Thanks!

Shawn

  { When God created Adam and then Eve from his rib, was this a Homo sapien man? }

Mary Ann replied:

Shawn,

It refers to the very first man as man.

It means that God formed the human animal aspect from the Earth (perhaps by evolution), and directly gave him his spiritual nature (his soul), and that man and woman have the same origin and are equal.

Mary Ann

Paul replied:

Shawn,

The Genesis story didn't have evolution in mind, but there's no reason both ideas can't go together. Whenever the first human beings appeared on earth — and this would mean creatures with a (body/soul) composite that includes the ability for language, self-awareness, conceptual thought, and free will — these first two ancestors of ours would be considered the Adam and Eve of the human race.

God could have created us through an evolutionary process and communicated our creation in poetry form to make it more easily understood. This would not make the Genesis story myth, as people understand the term today, but rather a symbolic history that preserves the important truths that pertain to our salvation.

So to directly answer your question, there's no consensus in the scientific community as to when exactly modern homo sapiens came into being, but whenever it was, if it includes the spiritual qualities above, then we can trace Adam to this hypothetical point.

Peace,

Paul

Shawn replied:

Thanks, Paul —

I'm just trying to rationalize this and it is hard since we know modern homo sapiens came from Homo erectus and Neanderthal man.

  • What if I logically don't understand this and the original sin process?
  • Do I trust that God knows my intentions though I have problems understanding this and accepting it without a doubt?

Thanks!

Shawn

Mary Ann replied:

Shawn —

Modern man's matter could have evolved, and then God imparted an immortal spirit into him.

Original sin means this:

The world as we see it is not the world as God created it, but is the result of sin originating in the first human pair: Adam and Eve.

By the way, even science is saying that we all have a common mother.

Mary Ann

Shawn replied:

Hi, Mary —

Thank you,

I understand the part about Adam and Eve, though I believe it was more of a group of
homo sapiens, not just a male and female alone, rather a small group that first evolved.

My problem mainly is that of original sin versus the evolutionary process of psychology and understanding.

  • If I, by reason and logic, do not understand the original sin part, at all, nor cannot accept it consciously, how does that effect my faith?

Thanks!

Sean

Mary Ann replied:

Sean —

  • You do not have to understand a doctrine to accept it.
  • You do not have to accept original sin in any way other than the Catechism does.
  • You do not need to understand the figurative elements literally.

You just need to accept that the first parents were in a state of original friendship with God,
in harmony with Him and within themselves, and with creation, and they fell out of friendship
and harmony, by choosing to disobey.

You may find this article by Jimmy Akin interesting:

Mary Ann

Shawn replied:

Thank you, Mary!

That cleared up my question!

Blessings,

Shawn

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